Politics the main reason why our country is suffering

[Martin-TACP]

I firmly believe in this since I used to be an employee in the House of Representatives as a Political Affairs Officer for a Committee. I was surprised to find out how corrupt our system is. Very much disgusted about the political system in our country, I had lately realized a new career path. I used to have dreams of being a public servant who could make a difference. The truth WOKE ME UP.

But now, well its just a sad reality...CORRUPTION :mad:

What do you guys think will happen to our country? hmmmm :rolleyes:

[Maria Silang]

Indeed, it is very sad to see our country and our countryman suffering from this unjustifiable and irresponsible acts of those in "POWER". Hence, we the people of our nation should also look into ourselves because we are the one who put them up there. We can not go anywhere if we don't change our ways.

I have the upportunity to be invited in one of those business functions and one acquinted guest told me about how sad to see that our country is the one who is suffering from this so called "brain drain". Look at our neighboring counrties and how far they accomplish? Remember China, not long ago when they have so many issues in regards to human rights and political/military corruptions. But what happen recently is that they have created this huge jobs for there people, everybody's busy and corruptions seems gone. Certainly, it is not 100% clean but it minimized the problem. This is what we have to do, in my opinion.

1). Established a peace and order in the country so that we could intice or encourage the foreign investors.
2). Government bodies or regulators should stop asking for their "gifts" to the investors. I spoke with one investor company and they backed out when the guy in the Phil. asked for this gifts deposited in foreign account. We don't realize that there is a rule for every industries not to oblidge to this "scummy" practices. So what happen, we lost the contract and the job for the people.

I will leave it up to you to fill up the rest. Anyone?

[Larusso]

I firmly believe in this since I used to be an employee in the House of Representatives as a Political Affairs Officer for a Committee. I was surprised to find out how corrupt our system is. Very much disgusted about the political system in our country, I had lately realized a new career path. I used to have dreams of being a public servant who could make a difference. The truth WOKE ME UP.

But now, well its just a sad reality...CORRUPTION :mad:

What do you guys think will happen to our country? hmmmm :rolleyes:

Nanghihinayang ako sa mga kagaya mo, Martin! I wish you you would still give government service another chance to view things from a different perspective. :(

[Doubtful]

It's really sad to see that everyone knows how corrupt our system of government is, and just take it for granted. Parang resigned na tayo to the system and we try to live our lives to the best of our abilities.

In my opinion, even if we do have a non-corrupt government official, he won't last very long. I think everyone else will try to destroy his political carrer because he's going against the grain. I've seen people who have rallied to a cause only to be turned to the corrupts ways when he has succeeded. As for me, every politician out there is corrupt in one way or the other. Whether taking bribes, "commissions" for approved projects, "gifts" from people they have helped, or steeling from the country outright.

Our politicians will take credit what little they do for the people, but will blame someone or something else on the things they failed to do or any failures that was realized on their term. Kung ganon tayo, hindi tayo uunlad.

Another thing is that we are trying to deal with so many issues at the same time that our resources are spread thinly. Bawat administration iba pag aaksayahan nila ng panahon. And at the end, they claim that they have made a difference, but the next administration would still tackle the same thing. Parang pa-ulit-ulit na lang ang problema.

Sometimes issues on morality also hinder us. One example of this are the entertainers that go abroad (specifically to Japan). We are so concerned about morality issues such as prostitution, white slavery that we fail to realize that for every such example of this issues there are dozens of other people that are being helped. Now the overseas employment of entertainers are being threatened because we have such moral highground that we fail to see the people trying to make a living from such profession. And what happens after next? People who are suppose to have a living (and most of them living a clean living, no prostitution nor white slavery on their part) have to go to prostitution in our country only to bring food and shelter for their families. We claim that we are running out of good doctors and nurses because most of them are going abroad. But we fail to realize them for the individual that they are, who only wanted to live comfortably and a future, not trying to squeeze each centavo for to live day to day. If the politicians were to stop their source of living, do they have an alternative for them that will have such returns? If so, I don't think people will go abroad. I have yet to see people who can live comfortably here in the philippines who chooses another country over his/her homeland. Is it moral for people to cut someone's source of living because he/she thinks it's not moral? The resource alloted for this kind of issues should be divereted where it counts more. And where is that? The economy, poverty, tourism, even the military for counter insurgency. We are wasting resources on things that we should just leave until we have a solution for the people that will be affected.

If the politician can help the people without expecting to be rewarded for his/her efforts is the perfect candidate to run our country. But let's face it, the government is like the mafia. If they can't get anything out of it, they won't lift a finger to help. Even make it more difficult for those who can't give protection money. A servant should be that, someone who works for the people because he/she is greatful that the people have trusted him/her. Maybe in the future we will realize such a leader and system, but now, I still doubt it will happen. That's why my name is Doubtful. :crap:

[Pilosopong Tasyo]

Corruption maybe the reason but I don't think we are the worst. Our neighboring countries are corrupt too but they are able to improve. I think our worst problem is the national debt which consumes almost half of the national budget. Imagine we have to pay for the money we loan to put up the Bataan nuclear power plant (which we are not using!) wherein at that time (I think) 1 US dollar is equal to 14 pesos now its 56 (think of the interest rates). We could have put that money to good use like infrastructures, country side development and education.

[prettyboy]

It's really sad to see that everyone knows how corrupt our system of government is, and just take it for granted. Parang resigned na tayo to the system and we try to live our lives to the best of our abilities.

In my opinion, even if we do have a non-corrupt government official, he won't last very long. I think everyone else will try to destroy his political carrer because he's going against the grain. I've seen people who have rallied to a cause only to be turned to the corrupts ways when he has succeeded. As for me, every politician out there is corrupt in one way or the other. Whether taking bribes, "commissions" for approved projects, "gifts" from people they have helped, or steeling from the country outright.

Our politicians will take credit what little they do for the people, but will blame someone or something else on the things they failed to do or any failures that was realized on their term. Kung ganon tayo, hindi tayo uunlad.

Another thing is that we are trying to deal with so many issues at the same time that our resources are spread thinly. Bawat administration iba pag aaksayahan nila ng panahon. And at the end, they claim that they have made a difference, but the next administration would still tackle the same thing. Parang pa-ulit-ulit na lang ang problema.

Sometimes issues on morality also hinder us. One example of this are the entertainers that go abroad (specifically to Japan). We are so concerned about morality issues such as prostitution, white slavery that we fail to realize that for every such example of this issues there are dozens of other people that are being helped. Now the overseas employment of entertainers are being threatened because we have such moral highground that we fail to see the people trying to make a living from such profession. And what happens after next? People who are suppose to have a living (and most of them living a clean living, no prostitution nor white slavery on their part) have to go to prostitution in our country only to bring food and shelter for their families. We claim that we are running out of good doctors and nurses because most of them are going abroad. But we fail to realize them for the individual that they are, who only wanted to live comfortably and a future, not trying to squeeze each centavo for to live day to day. If the politicians were to stop their source of living, do they have an alternative for them that will have such returns? If so, I don't think people will go abroad. I have yet to see people who can live comfortably here in the philippines who chooses another country over his/her homeland. Is it moral for people to cut someone's source of living because he/she thinks it's not moral? The resource alloted for this kind of issues should be divereted where it counts more. And where is that? The economy, poverty, tourism, even the military for counter insurgency. We are wasting resources on things that we should just leave until we have a solution for the people that will be affected.

If the politician can help the people without expecting to be rewarded for his/her efforts is the perfect candidate to run our country. But let's face it, the government is like the mafia. If they can't get anything out of it, they won't lift a finger to help. Even make it more difficult for those who can't give protection money. A servant should be that, someone who works for the people because he/she is greatful that the people have trusted him/her. Maybe in the future we will realize such a leader and system, but now, I still doubt it will happen. That's why my name is Doubtful. :crap:i must agree with you, unless we do something beneficial to our country, we cant really progress. Stop with the blame tossing and all. Let us do our share. Cant we?

[max]

Politics by its truest nature is NOT DIRTY. The majority of the people in politics nowadays are the ones who make a dirty politics in the Philippines. Our culture should already mature especially the leaders of this nation so we achieve stability and respect from other neighboring countries and the rest of the world. MAHIYA NAMAN ANG MGA TINITINGNAN NATING LEADERS. THEY SHOULD ACT AS ONE!!!! Mamuhay ng simple kasi yun lang ang kaya ng mga bulsa naming ipang suporta sa inyo. Every pay day di ko na tinitingnan how much is my earnings but rather i look on to the deductions. SANA MAY PUPUNTAHAN NAMAN. MAAWA KAYO SA AMING NASA WORK FORCE. GUMISING NAMAN KAYO!

[idealist yupee]

It is a fact that corruption is widespread in our government, however, have we done our part to stop corruption even in our own little way? :teach: How sad it is to hear that most of us complain about corruption especially in our government... but I guess most of us have a part in tolerating corruption in one way or another.

It is good that we can share our views through this medium of how can we rid of corruption. I only hope that all our views about the solution to our country's problem will not be only in theory but instead we should do something about.... now!!! :help:

What we need right now is a sense of nationalism... let us all be united to stop corruption. If we truly want change for the betterment of our country, let the change begin within ourselves :yes:

[luckycreed_08]

Politics is not dirty in its true essence. It has the best ideals and principles that could govern people who are entering into this kind of arena. Politics is pro-people, pro-god, pro-environment and pro-nation. In fact, it is the ultimate solution to the problem in the country. But people who get into politics tainted the true essence of it. they have changed the good image and the well-defined contents of politics. In other words, they lambastedly insulted the term itself. Why i say so? Because i have observed that people get into politics not to practice what true and genuine politics should be, instead, they engage into this arena to gain fame, power, glory and of course, money. Most of them get involved in politics because the want to retain the glory that their family has been enjoying while some make politics a kind of business, a very,very profitable one with only limited expenses yet the return is surmountable. It makes them millionaires. Then, i can say that these people should be taken out of the political arena. By whom and How? let's go back to the bottom line of these atrocities of some politiicians and ask the question- who put them there by the way...now if you and i know the answer then we blame no one but us...but in the very first place we are the one who put them in their current positions and so, we have also the power and right to get rid of them from their current positions thru....wise selecting of officals in this coming election...vote no one but a politian who could DO THE LEAST HARM TO US...let us not look for the most intelligent or most experienced but rather the politician who have simple visions for our country of which such could be reached.......

[Pilosopong Tasyo]

I agree with you luckycreed_08 'Politics is the solution of the problem'. But I think you need to be more open to the reality of 'Politics in the Philippines'. History tells it all. Most of our leaders are those who own vast of lands. Which is why the Agrarian Reform never succeed. Take for example 'Hacienda Luisita'. Politicians are simply selfish. They ran for their own interest. Who would want to risk to serve the country for as little 15K pesos a month? Kaya hindi makausad ang Pilipinas dahil maraming sariling interest ang ating mga mambabatas.

Bakit di natin bawasan ang mga politico.

Let's Abolish Congress para mabawasan ang mga mambabastos este mambabatas.

[maxy52]

sa totoo lang, kunti nalang yung matatawag natin na deserving employee sa government offices. yung mga deserving kasi tumangap din ng bride money para lang di mapagdudahan. pro di cla nag abuso. pro yung iba talaga, dios ko, yung sahod nila sideline income nalang yung rocket nila ang main income.

kami na nasa private sector kontinto nasa malait na sahod.

kailangan lang cguro i evaluate lahat nang empleyado sa governo. ang mag evaluate ay ang mamayan. at i-bawal ang palakasan system. kadalasan kasi yung abosado yung may kapit sa goberno. at ang mga opisyal na mga tarantado ay maraming napapasok na empleyado "pang proteksyon."

Yung friend ko pala ay matalino, masipag, pasado sa civil service exam (prof). pro di natangap. kasi na ka freeze na at position.

yung isa ko din kung frend ay dipa tapos mag aral pababalik kasi, tamad, mayabang, pro may powisto na sa goberno. hinihintay nlang kung kailan makatapos.

TAMA BA ANG GANITONG SISTIMA? NAKATOLONG BA? BAT ANG DAMI NILA MGA GAGO SA GOBERNO?

[Elias]

I see it as a problem of values.... that simple, i mean that complicated! whatever!

[verman]

i do have to agree with you.. :thumb:

[verman]

I see it as a problem of values.... that simple, i mean that complicated! whatever!


yehhhh.... :nopity:

[rogue]

yeah.. talagang problema ang politics dito sa pinas... too much... :wow:

[Camu Dennis B.]

Denz reply=It is really true that our public official are corrupt!!!!!!I firmly believe in this since I used to be an employee in the House of Representatives as a Political Affairs Officer for a Committee. I was surprised to find out how corrupt our system is. Very much disgusted about the political system in our country, I had lately realized a new career path. I used to have dreams of being a public servant who could make a difference. The truth WOKE ME UP.

But now, well its just a sad reality...CORRUPTION :mad:

What do you guys think will happen to our country? hmmmm :rolleyes:

[Camu Dennis B.]

I'm not a judgementalist but I really suffer what is the cuase of distabilition of our economy.I'm also victim of thousand Pilipino people who are suffer aching stomach due to poverty.Firts,due to constantly increasing of prices,transportation fare but our government still remains nothing;thats
why many some militant groups raise protest against our government but what did happen? WALA!!!!!!!


THE ONLY ONE THING THAT I CAN SAY " WALANG GLORIA ANG PILIPINAS "

[JIm]

Walang masama sa pulitika ngunit ang tanging masama lang ay ang mga taong sumisira sa pulitika ng ating bansa na walang inisip kundi ang magsamantala at pagsilbihan ang kanilang interest. Ang pulitika kung ito ay ginagamit sa tamang pagseserbisyo sa tao ay mabuti ngunit kung kabaliktaran ang nangyayari itoy magdudulot ng kasamaan.

Tanging ang isang tunay na pagsusuri ng mga taong iloloklok ang syang magpapanumbalik sa totoong layunin ng pulitika kung tayo rin mismo ang magsisimulang magbago at hindi magpapagamit sa mga bulok na pulitiko.

Kung gusto natin ng pagbabago simulan natin at huwag natin asahan na magbago ang mga taong ang sa unang hangarin ay magsamantala.

Makilahok sa mga pagkilos upang maiparating ang tamang layunin at maging daan sa tunay na pagbabago ng lipunana at ng pamahalaan.

IBALIK ANG TIWALA NG MAMAMAYAN SA PAMAHALAAN AT WAKASAN ANG MAPAGSAMANTALANG IILAN!!

ISULONG ANG MAKABULUHANG PAGBABAGO!!!!!

-UMDJ

[Ruben Tagalog]

Hinihimok ni Jim ang mamamayan (Philippine Forums) na makilahok sa mga "pagkilos." Hindi nga ba't makailang ulit na tayong nakilahok sa mga pagkilos na ganito??? May maganda ba at pangmatagalang kabutihan na nasukli para sa bayan???

Bugbog na ang bayan sa kaguluhan -- gamit ang pamamaraang armado, hayagan o politikal-- na sa huli ay mayayaman at daynastiyang angkang politiko lamang ang nakinabang.

Ang suliranin na unang dapat lunasan ay ang ating pagkakabaon sa utang mula sa mga pandaigdigang bangko. Halos kalahati ng ating taunang national budget ay pambayad sa mga pagkakautang na ito. Sana manawari ay gamitin ng pamahalaan ang ugnayang diplomatiko para pansamantala ay hindi muna tayo magbayad ng utang sa World Bank (WB) at International Monetary Fund (IMF). Nang sa gayon ay maiahon muna natin ang ating bansa sa kahirapan.

Pangalawa, higpitan ang kaparusahan sa mga krimen tulad ng kurapsyon, pagnanakaw at iba pang nakaririmarim na krimen, gaya ng pamamalakad ng estado ng Singapore, Japan at iba pa. At doblehin ang parusa sa mga nagbibigay ng kaluwagan sa mga taong dapat ay mahuli at parusahan. Walang mapaparusahan kung hindi lalabag sa batas.

Panghuli, paalisin at huwag nang bigyang pagkakataon na manungkulan ang mga opisyal ng pamahalaan na nasangkot sa iskandalo upang hindi na makaladkad ang integridad ng pamahalaan sa naturang iskandalo.

Sakaling magawa ng pamahalaan ang binggit sa itaas- ang pagkakatotoo ng political will, naniniwala ako na ang sinasabing deserving government employees ni Maxy52 ay makatatanggap na ng hustong sahod at hindi na tatanggap ng bribe.

Mabuhay tayong lahat.

[JIm]

Walang masama sa protesta sa lansangan sahalip itoy nakapagbibigay information sa tao ng ng mga isyung dapat pag-ukulan ng pansin. Ang protesta ay hindi nangangahulugan ng kaguluhan, itoy isa lang sa mga paraan ng pagpapahayag ng damdamin o opinyon ng mga tao sa isang isyu na may kaugnayan sa lipunan at mismo ng mamamayan. Ano nga ba ang nagawang mabuti ng protesta? Hindi ba ang protesta sa lansangan din ang nagpatalsik sa diktadura at nagpabago ng mga maling patakaran ng pamahalaan sa usaping pulitika at ekonomiya maging sa usaping deplomatikong ugnayan sa ibang bansa?

Ang realidad, ang pamahalaan ay manhid kung walang tinig at lakas ang nadarama mula sa mamamayan at kung ano ang papular na isyung sa tingin ng pamahalaan na makapagbibigay ng "pogi points" sa kanya ito'y tutugunan.
Sa makatuwid ang protesta ay isang uri ng pagkilos na nagprepressure sa kung ano ang dapat gawing tama sa usaping pagpapamahala ng pulitika o "pressure politics".

Ang usaping VAT 12%. Alam ba ng ordinaryong tao ang masamang epekto ng VAT kung hindi ito inilabas ng mga mulat nating mamamayan sa lansangan? kailangan maging aktibo at mulat tayong mga pilipino sa kung ano ang nagaganap sa ating lipunan at pamahalaan sapagkat kung hindi tayo magiging bahagi ng pagpapahayag ng damdamin sa mga isyung may kaugnayan sa ating buhay walang mangyayari at mananatili ang pagsasamantala ng iilan sa pamahalaan.

Nawa ang ating mga opinyon dito ay mapakinggan ng pamahalaan at ituring itong isang positibo para sa pagpapatatag ng instutution at hindi o sa ano mang layuning sirain ang institution. Pagpulutan nila ng mga ideya upang maging kapakipakinabang ang pamahalaan at tuluyang ng magkaroon ng pagbabago. :finger:

[Pilosopong Tasyo]

Katulad ng aking nasabi, ang lahat ng sektor ay may represante na sa congresso at ito ay ginagastusan ng mamamayang pilipino. Kung ang militante ay gagamitin pa rin ang lansangan upang makapaghasik ng takot sa mga mamamayan, mabuti pang tanggalin na lamang sa kongreso ang represante at igugol na lamang sa tamang edukasyon ng mga mamamayan.

Ang mga militante ay maaaring ipangalandakan ang kanilang nasasaloobin sa pamamagitan ng media. Magkano nga ba ang binabayad niyo sa media?

Nagdudugo ang aking taenga at di malaman kung bakit kailangan pang magsisigaw sa lansangan at di gumamit ng tamang pamamaraan.Sa aking palagay ay pagod na ang mga mamayan sa ganitong paraan.

Iisa lamang ang aking nakikita sa inyong pamamaraan at ito ay ang igiit ang inyong kagustuhan ng walang pasubali. Sa demokratikong bansa ang batas ay dapat sundin. Ang batas na ito ay syang nagpapaayos sa kanyang mamamayan.

Hindi lahat ng mamamayan ay mahihimok ninyo sa inyong gawain. Hindi sapagkat sa tingin niyo ay tama ay tama na rin sa iba. Igalang niyo rin naman ang iba at huwag ituring na mangmang at kayo lamang ang nakakaalam ng tama at wasto. Maging bukas din sana ang inyong isipan.

[JIm]

Dapat nga sigurong tanggalin nalang ang konggreso sapagkat ang nananaig naman ay ang mga representante daw ngunit nagtatago naman sa saya ng reyna na kung ano ang gusto at sya ang nasusunod at hindi ang mamamayan!

Hindi dapat pagpaguran ang karapatan natin sa pagpapahayag anio man ang anyo nito sapagkat sab nga dapat galangin ang batas. Ang karapatan ng sinabing militante ay ginagarantyahan ng batas at sino ang pipigil dito. kung lilimitahin natin ang ating karapatan at isaalang alang nalang sa mga iilan daw na representante, ibig ba sabihin huwag na tayo makialam?

Naniniwala ako na hindi pa tayo manhid at kung manhid na tayo nangangahulugang wala ng pakinabang ang bansa sa atin. Huwag naman kaibigan, maging bukas tayo ng ating isipan at bigyan respeto ang munting sakripisyo ng mga tao na nagmamalasakit lang sa ating bayan at mismo sa mamamayan.

Kung hindi ba kumilos ang ating mga ninuno laban sa mga dayuhang mananakop makakamit ba natin ang kalayaan mula sa kolonyalismo ng mga dayuhan? Kaya mahalaga ang tinig at pagkilos hindi ang maghasik ng takot kundi ang magpahayag ng saloobin.

mabuhay ka!!!!!

[Ruben Tagalog]

May mga pagkakataon na ang kapag nakakita tayo ng isang pangyayari ay biglang makakaramdam tayo ng takot, pagkagalit o pagkatuwa. Depende sa ating pagtanggap ng inaasahang resulta. Ito ay bunsod ng emosyon upang tanggapin o itakwil ang nakikitang resulta ng pangyayari, gaya ng mga pagpapahayag sa lansangan ng mga militanteng grupo. Para kay Ginoong P. Tasyo, sumisikhabo ang kanyang damdamin sa galit sa ginagawang pagpapahayag ng mga militanteng grupo. Samantala, si Jim naman ay sumusuporta sa gawain ng militante.

Kung susuriin, pareho naman silang may kredito sapagkat anuman ang iyong pananaw ukol sa isang gawain iyon ay tama at mahirap baguhin kung kaya nga kailangan ng bukas na kaisipan upang liripin o limiin ang mga kaganapan uang sa huli ay isulong ang paniwala o tanggapin ang panukala ng iba.

Walang masama sa pagpapahayag ng damdamin sa lansangan. Maraming kabutihan na ang nagawa nito para sa ating bayan- nilaban nito ang diktaduryag rehimen, ang patuloy na pagtaas ng langis at mga bilihin, isimulong ang karapatang pantao ng marama at napakarami pa. Sa kabilang banda, may pagkakamali din sa panig ng militante, gaya ng pagresulta sa karahasan, pagkasira ng mga ari-arian at pagdulot ng masamang epekto sa normal na pagkilos ng mga hindi kasama sa pagkilos.

Talagang magkakaiba tayo ng pananaw, kaya nga sinasabing malaya tayong mag-isip. Sana lamang ay bigyang paggalang ang pananaw ng ibang tao.

[max]

As Filipinos, we should demand for a charter change. And should it be granted, we should guard this activity closely so the interest of the greater good prosper. I believe when you said that only the rich and powerful in this nation becomes richer and more powerful. It is because we are a democratic country. Maybe, thru charter change, Philippines can move forward. We need things get done/regulated/strict implemented!!! :karate:

[joshua]

i have read the statements of the other members about the politics in the Philippines. As a student it was really shocking to know how undesirable politics we have in our country. I am presently enrolled in ateneo de naga university, before, my perception about the philippine government is same with other people that it is dirty and there's no future ahead. But when i enter in college, one of my subject we discusses politics. I realized by then that politics is not as dirty as what i am thinking before. Actually, the philosophy of having a government nowadays is good, it really aims to defend the welfare and serve its people. Honestly, i was inspired of it. Its just the fact that what makes politics dirty are the one whose administering it-not the politics itself. ThaT's why, when i got the chance to enter in to school politics, I grab it. Because of the idea that i want to serve my fellow ateneans by defending its welfare and promoting programs for the benefits of the students.
Our Supreme Student Government is pattern to the Philippine Government. We also had these three branches; the Executive, the Legislative, and the Judiciary. Our process of choosing students to be placed in the position is through election which is administered also by our Comelec. Our government is politically oriented since we also had this political party.
I am in the student congress which is our legislative branch and i was the former speaker of the house. when i am already in my position, i experienced the pressure of being a politician in the campus. since we are autonomous and we experienced certain power that our school administration has no right to intervene. My realization before that politics becomes dirty because of the people who is administering it is proven. I gain political enemy in the campus and by then i started to play with their game. I learned to fight thinking that i should defend the right of the student. But my struggle results to none. because all the people that surrounds me has its own interest why they are sitting in their position. great disappointment i felt in my part. that's why i decided to pass my resignation to the president beacuse my conscience can't take it anymore.
whats the bottom line? if we are struggling for great advancement in our country, good leaders, and clean government. i think, it should all start from us. our attitude should be change for better not for worst, if we can give a critique (negative) we should also learned to give alternative action (positive). proper education. so, for schools and universities, maximize all the resources, explain possibly to the students that our current scenario is negative and have to be change. dont idolize people or politicians who are not deserving for it. educate properly the students with proper guidance...the philosophy of moral judgement should be part of it.

[iconoclast_angel]

helo 2 da members..at las..i belong!..
im a new member of the phil. forums. and im so glad that the mmbrship does not require ages coz if it does,,sure i won't be here.. its just my radical thinking that pushed me to get in here..
bein a student ( ok..iL let myself b known first.. im a senior high school student 16 years of age and is soon going 2 b an alumna of Parañaque Science High School..i think this sounds enuf..) im not that exigent on all those issues swerving around me.. i may have read a broadsheet or a tabloid..i may hav watched the news and heard the comments of brodcastrs on da radio..yet.still..i still hav the thirst..perhaps this is it.. hearing and comprehending others' ( asyd form my mom and dad's, my buddies and peers' and my clasmtes' point of view ) views on national issues..national issues that Juan Dela Cruz is carrying..oh..this country...
will it be enuf if iL say that we r indeed rising?..( the peso value just increased..) or stil drowning..?...( hmmm..not bein so negativ..40 prcent of my perception goes wd here..)..y?..
there hav been so many issues..and i ges the main conflict the nation is facing is this rotten political system.. im not certain if ive got the right words..but nothing worse ( i hope so) can descryb how the political state of our Lupang Hinirang stand..
the politics wc is not reaaly "dirty" is indeed..is..argg!..im havin a problem wd my pc!..hell!..wat da heck is happening here?!..ahmm..iL b back agen..im sorry..>.

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[Ruben Tagalog]

Marami na rin naman tayong nabasa at naipahayag kaugnay ng kurapsyon sa ating pamahalaan at lalo na sa political system ng bansa. Kung tutuusin ay wala na yatang bahagi ng sistema at struktura ng pamahalaan ang walang bahid ng kurapsyon o katiwalian. Ngunit huwag nating kalimutan na ang pagkakamali ay hindi lamang nasa mga politiko at yaong mga nasa pamahalaan. Malaking bahagi din ng pagkakamali ay gawa ng mismong ordinaryong mamamayan, mahirap lunukin hindi ba? Pero naniniwala akong ito ay totoo. Ang dahilan, kulang- kung hindi man wala na- tayong didplina sa sarili.

Maraming karaniwang Pilipinong ang laging nagmamadali at gustong makauna sa lahat ng bagay. Ayaw maghintay o magtiyaga sa pilahan. Humahanap ng paraan o kakutsaba para ang pakay ay makuha agad kahit marami pa ang dapat ay mauna sa kanya, batay sa ayos ng pila. Pa-langis, pangkape, suhol, pake, padulas at marami pang anyo ng "pakiusap" na ang kahulugan ay bayad kapalit ng personal na pabor. (Ang ugat ng kasalanan.)

Dahil sa ugaling ito ng maraming Pilipino, marami din ang nagsasamantala at natural sila ang mga taong may impluwensya - politiko, opisyal ng pamahalaan, ordinaryong tao na may kakilalang maimpluwensya, mga janitor at janitress na naka-detail kay Mayor o tagapunas ng sapatos ni hepe ng Pulisya. (Ang gumagamit ng kasalanan.)

Halimbawa: Sa pagkuha ng lisensya ng pagmamaneho, sinong driver ang hindi nagbayad ng sobra sa takdang singil ng LTO bilang "lagay" para mapadali ang proseso ng driver's license? Kasama sa sinisingil ng driving school sa mga student's nito ang "inilalagay" sa mga tao sa ahensya para mapadali ang pagkuha ng lisensya!

Kaya nga naririnig na natin ang katagang "the lesser evil." Dahil kapwa naman daw may pagkakasala, ang mamamayan at ang mga politiko at nasa pamahalaan. Pinipili lamang natin ang hindi masyadong garapal sa paggawa ng katiwalian, hindi?

Hay, buhay. Harinawang umunlad na tayo.....

[magpapaalala]

hey , , , , politics is a business so try to be nice to the politicians they have just invested allot of money in the bank . . . . . :smokin:

[tachibamaboi]

well I guess that I have to participate here in this forum since that I represent the voice of the Filipino youth even that I live here in U.S but I’m still a pure “pinoy” my parents are both Filipino… I’ve got lots of friends in itza (www.itzamatch.com) that were Filipino too. We discuss a lots of topics about politics there… and there is a poem there that I read entitled fAith hOPe and Love (www.itzamatch.com)….

When I was young and free and my imagination had no limits,
I dreamed of changing the world,
As I grew older and wiser,
I realize the world would never change.

And I decided to shorten my sights,
Somewhat and change only my country.
But it too seemed immovable.

As I entered my twilight years,
In one last desperate attempt,
I sought to change my family,
Those closest to me,

But alas they would have none of it
And now here I lie on my death bed
And realize (perhaps for the first time)
That if only I’d change myself first,

Then by example I have influenced my family
And with their encouragement and support,
I may have bettered my country,
And who knows I may have change the world


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mAny tHankz!
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tAcHibAmabOi (http://profiles.itzamatch.com/angeltrexx)

[pian]

The main problem is that we have a very illegitimate democratic system. Our voters elect only those people who are popular and not if they are capable. The big dilemma if GMA is ousted, the VP will take over who was elected PURELY because he’s popular with the masses, and not because he’s capable to lead the nation. Our economy has never grown this much, I don’t want to take the chance by entrusting it to someone solely popular with the masses.
To prevent this transfer, no matter how believable Lozada initially is, his credibility is now being questioned. He admitted that a certain level of corruption is acceptable to him. Questions have arisen whether he was kidnapped, because his celphone was not confiscated, he dined in Outback restaurant, and he was able to go to the place he wanted to go all along, that is, La Salle Greenhills. I even read he committed a sin of omission regarding his consultation with the wife of Sen. Joker Arroyo. He didn’t correct the impression in which it appeared the wife invited him to her house to urge him not to testify, when the fact of the matter is (based on what I read) Lozada was the one who contacted the wife around September before Joey de Venecia testified, and he was crying and that he doesn’t want to testify. So the wife invited him to her house, and told him she couldn’t lawyer for him due to conflict of interest since her husband is a Senator, while he was then president of Philforest. She advised him then, since he was so distressed, that he doesn’t have to testify if he didn’t want to. Since this was one of those ordinary free consultations, she didn’t bother to tell Joker about it. So Joker was surprised when his wife was mentioned.
Jun Lozada is no Clarissa Ocampo at all.

[pian]

Below is a transcript of a supposedly wiretapped conversation between Joey and Jun I got from a website. Judge for yourself if Jun Lozada is indeed deserving to be treated a hero, but of course after ascertaining if this is genuine.
usapang udifuta
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TRACK 3...

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Joey (allegedly, Joey de Venecia): Hey Jun.
Jun (allegedly, Jun Lozada): Hey Joey.
Joey: Jun, can you hear me?
Jun: Yeah. Go ahead.
Joey: Yeah, where are you to put Chair (Abalos)?
Jun: Ang formula ko doon is kuha ako ng points dun sa 130.
Joey: Uh-huh…
Jun: Di ba? Kasi saan ko pa kukunin di ba? (laughs) Itong mga …
Joey: Kaya lang pare, we need to get some… at least from… something from them, di ba?
Jun: Yeah.. from both sides. P*t@ng!na…
Joey: Pare.. start from the thing.. Because he’s the gatekeeper of the votes. P*ta. I can understand, but not that amount.
Jun: Oh yeah. that’s too big, right. That’s too big.
Joey: Pare, let’s develop a plan to talk to him.
Jun: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So…
Joey: And you know what he told me, between you and I. When we were in Hong Kong… in Shenzen. Don’t quote me ha. Sabi niya kasi, marami akong…... Tinanong ko bakit ba ang laki-laki? Singkwenta.. Sabi niya marami ako kelangan bigyan. Pati yung NEDA. He said the word NEDA ha. P*t@ngina. For your information pare.
Jun: Information? I would understand that… He’d like to look at…
Joey: Maybe, wait, you can quote me and say, sabi ni Joey meron daw… sabi mo sa kanya may NEDA dun. (laughs) Di ba? He told me pare. (laughs)
Jun: Sige, sige…
Joey: P*t@ng!na, baka magwala na naman yung… (laughs)
Jun: For some reason, I have this chemistry with him. Sabi ko Chair… In fact, sabi niya, Jun, ikaw na mag-referee bukas ha. Sabi niya, I want you to be there. Ikaw na mag-referee, ikaw na magsabi kung papaano. Sige po Sir, ako na ang mag-aano sa ano… (laughs)
Joey: Well anyway, so that’s where I’m looking at right now. .. ought to get you.. And then, uh, think of a strategy for Ben (Abalos?), and if you need me to back you up, I’ll be there.
Jun: Hey Joey, regarding this Chinese embassy thing. I think I struck a motherload no? I’ll put them in Roxas Boulevard. P*t@ng!na, di ba?
Joey: In the Reformation? (Reclamation)
Jun: No, p*t@ng!na, that’s not prime. We’ll put them in the CCP complex.
Joey: Yup, got it.
Jun: P*t@ng!na. Yeah, that’s, wala.. I can ??? that ??? agreement. (I can swing that gddam deal pare)
Joey: You mean, owned by the Central Bank?
Jun: Yeah! Can you imagine? P*t@ng!na, same stature as the American embassy, better pa, di ba? The Japanese Embassy is in Roxas Boulevard. The American embassy is there. So p*ta, I just arrived that we put the Chinese embassy right in the midst of it all, di ba? Joey: Yes, yes, of course. That’s ??? to hear. That’s foresight. (That’s perfect)
Jun: … don’t mention my name. I think he knows me well.
Joey: Gaano kalaki, pare?
Jun: P*t@ng!na, as much as 15 hectares. (laughs)
Joey: P*t@ng!na. Tapos siguro kumuha rin tayo dun. Pero we need 10 finances. (10 financers)
Jun: No, no, no, no. P*t@ng!na. I cannot just tell you all the things that I’ve been asked to do. But that one I think, I can ??? for ourselves.
Joey: I’ll talk to the…
Jun: Talk to him right away.

[baphomet9]

As far as i know its not the politician who will cause our country to change but rather the citizen. What are we going to do with a leader if all the people refuse to follow him? One more thing all of this politician come from the citizen of course IF our citizens will change our leaders will change.

[Rexyseikele]

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