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11-16-2004, 06:26 PM
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Politics the main reason why our country is suffering
I firmly believe in this since I used to be an employee in the House of Representatives as a Political Affairs Officer for a Committee. I was surprised to find out how corrupt our system is. Very much disgusted about the political system in our country, I had lately realized a new career path. I used to have dreams of being a public servant who could make a difference. The truth WOKE ME UP.
But now, well its just a sad reality...CORRUPTION
What do you guys think will happen to our country? hmmmm 
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11-24-2004, 08:17 PM
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Response to Martin's Comments
Indeed, it is very sad to see our country and our countryman suffering from this unjustifiable and irresponsible acts of those in "POWER". Hence, we the people of our nation should also look into ourselves because we are the one who put them up there. We can not go anywhere if we don't change our ways.
I have the upportunity to be invited in one of those business functions and one acquinted guest told me about how sad to see that our country is the one who is suffering from this so called "brain drain". Look at our neighboring counrties and how far they accomplish? Remember China, not long ago when they have so many issues in regards to human rights and political/military corruptions. But what happen recently is that they have created this huge jobs for there people, everybody's busy and corruptions seems gone. Certainly, it is not 100% clean but it minimized the problem. This is what we have to do, in my opinion.
1). Established a peace and order in the country so that we could intice or encourage the foreign investors.
2). Government bodies or regulators should stop asking for their "gifts" to the investors. I spoke with one investor company and they backed out when the guy in the Phil. asked for this gifts deposited in foreign account. We don't realize that there is a rule for every industries not to oblidge to this "scummy" practices. So what happen, we lost the contract and the job for the people.
I will leave it up to you to fill up the rest. Anyone?
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11-25-2004, 04:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Martin-TACP
I firmly believe in this since I used to be an employee in the House of Representatives as a Political Affairs Officer for a Committee. I was surprised to find out how corrupt our system is. Very much disgusted about the political system in our country, I had lately realized a new career path. I used to have dreams of being a public servant who could make a difference. The truth WOKE ME UP.
But now, well its just a sad reality...CORRUPTION
What do you guys think will happen to our country? hmmmm 
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Nanghihinayang ako sa mga kagaya mo, Martin! I wish you you would still give government service another chance to view things from a different perspective.
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12-22-2004, 12:30 PM
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It's really sad to see that everyone knows how corrupt our system of government is, and just take it for granted. Parang resigned na tayo to the system and we try to live our lives to the best of our abilities.
In my opinion, even if we do have a non-corrupt government official, he won't last very long. I think everyone else will try to destroy his political carrer because he's going against the grain. I've seen people who have rallied to a cause only to be turned to the corrupts ways when he has succeeded. As for me, every politician out there is corrupt in one way or the other. Whether taking bribes, "commissions" for approved projects, "gifts" from people they have helped, or steeling from the country outright.
Our politicians will take credit what little they do for the people, but will blame someone or something else on the things they failed to do or any failures that was realized on their term. Kung ganon tayo, hindi tayo uunlad.
Another thing is that we are trying to deal with so many issues at the same time that our resources are spread thinly. Bawat administration iba pag aaksayahan nila ng panahon. And at the end, they claim that they have made a difference, but the next administration would still tackle the same thing. Parang pa-ulit-ulit na lang ang problema.
Sometimes issues on morality also hinder us. One example of this are the entertainers that go abroad (specifically to Japan). We are so concerned about morality issues such as prostitution, white slavery that we fail to realize that for every such example of this issues there are dozens of other people that are being helped. Now the overseas employment of entertainers are being threatened because we have such moral highground that we fail to see the people trying to make a living from such profession. And what happens after next? People who are suppose to have a living (and most of them living a clean living, no prostitution nor white slavery on their part) have to go to prostitution in our country only to bring food and shelter for their families. We claim that we are running out of good doctors and nurses because most of them are going abroad. But we fail to realize them for the individual that they are, who only wanted to live comfortably and a future, not trying to squeeze each centavo for to live day to day. If the politicians were to stop their source of living, do they have an alternative for them that will have such returns? If so, I don't think people will go abroad. I have yet to see people who can live comfortably here in the philippines who chooses another country over his/her homeland. Is it moral for people to cut someone's source of living because he/she thinks it's not moral? The resource alloted for this kind of issues should be divereted where it counts more. And where is that? The economy, poverty, tourism, even the military for counter insurgency. We are wasting resources on things that we should just leave until we have a solution for the people that will be affected.
If the politician can help the people without expecting to be rewarded for his/her efforts is the perfect candidate to run our country. But let's face it, the government is like the mafia. If they can't get anything out of it, they won't lift a finger to help. Even make it more difficult for those who can't give protection money. A servant should be that, someone who works for the people because he/she is greatful that the people have trusted him/her. Maybe in the future we will realize such a leader and system, but now, I still doubt it will happen. That's why my name is Doubtful. 
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01-04-2005, 01:52 AM
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Corruption maybe the reason but I don't think we are the worst. Our neighboring countries are corrupt too but they are able to improve. I think our worst problem is the national debt which consumes almost half of the national budget. Imagine we have to pay for the money we loan to put up the Bataan nuclear power plant (which we are not using!) wherein at that time (I think) 1 US dollar is equal to 14 pesos now its 56 (think of the interest rates). We could have put that money to good use like infrastructures, country side development and education.
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01-05-2005, 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Doubtful
It's really sad to see that everyone knows how corrupt our system of government is, and just take it for granted. Parang resigned na tayo to the system and we try to live our lives to the best of our abilities.
In my opinion, even if we do have a non-corrupt government official, he won't last very long. I think everyone else will try to destroy his political carrer because he's going against the grain. I've seen people who have rallied to a cause only to be turned to the corrupts ways when he has succeeded. As for me, every politician out there is corrupt in one way or the other. Whether taking bribes, "commissions" for approved projects, "gifts" from people they have helped, or steeling from the country outright.
Our politicians will take credit what little they do for the people, but will blame someone or something else on the things they failed to do or any failures that was realized on their term. Kung ganon tayo, hindi tayo uunlad.
Another thing is that we are trying to deal with so many issues at the same time that our resources are spread thinly. Bawat administration iba pag aaksayahan nila ng panahon. And at the end, they claim that they have made a difference, but the next administration would still tackle the same thing. Parang pa-ulit-ulit na lang ang problema.
Sometimes issues on morality also hinder us. One example of this are the entertainers that go abroad (specifically to Japan). We are so concerned about morality issues such as prostitution, white slavery that we fail to realize that for every such example of this issues there are dozens of other people that are being helped. Now the overseas employment of entertainers are being threatened because we have such moral highground that we fail to see the people trying to make a living from such profession. And what happens after next? People who are suppose to have a living (and most of them living a clean living, no prostitution nor white slavery on their part) have to go to prostitution in our country only to bring food and shelter for their families. We claim that we are running out of good doctors and nurses because most of them are going abroad. But we fail to realize them for the individual that they are, who only wanted to live comfortably and a future, not trying to squeeze each centavo for to live day to day. If the politicians were to stop their source of living, do they have an alternative for them that will have such returns? If so, I don't think people will go abroad. I have yet to see people who can live comfortably here in the philippines who chooses another country over his/her homeland. Is it moral for people to cut someone's source of living because he/she thinks it's not moral? The resource alloted for this kind of issues should be divereted where it counts more. And where is that? The economy, poverty, tourism, even the military for counter insurgency. We are wasting resources on things that we should just leave until we have a solution for the people that will be affected.
If the politician can help the people without expecting to be rewarded for his/her efforts is the perfect candidate to run our country. But let's face it, the government is like the mafia. If they can't get anything out of it, they won't lift a finger to help. Even make it more difficult for those who can't give protection money. A servant should be that, someone who works for the people because he/she is greatful that the people have trusted him/her. Maybe in the future we will realize such a leader and system, but now, I still doubt it will happen. That's why my name is Doubtful. 
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i must agree with you, unless we do something beneficial to our country, we cant really progress. Stop with the blame tossing and all. Let us do our share. Cant we?
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01-06-2005, 08:32 AM
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Politics by its truest nature is NOT DIRTY. The majority of the people in politics nowadays are the ones who make a dirty politics in the Philippines. Our culture should already mature especially the leaders of this nation so we achieve stability and respect from other neighboring countries and the rest of the world. MAHIYA NAMAN ANG MGA TINITINGNAN NATING LEADERS. THEY SHOULD ACT AS ONE!!!! Mamuhay ng simple kasi yun lang ang kaya ng mga bulsa naming ipang suporta sa inyo. Every pay day di ko na tinitingnan how much is my earnings but rather i look on to the deductions. SANA MAY PUPUNTAHAN NAMAN. MAAWA KAYO SA AMING NASA WORK FORCE. GUMISING NAMAN KAYO!
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01-06-2005, 09:27 AM
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Doing our part
It is a fact that corruption is widespread in our government, however, have we done our part to stop corruption even in our own little way?  How sad it is to hear that most of us complain about corruption especially in our government... but I guess most of us have a part in tolerating corruption in one way or another.
It is good that we can share our views through this medium of how can we rid of corruption. I only hope that all our views about the solution to our country's problem will not be only in theory but instead we should do something about.... now!!!
What we need right now is a sense of nationalism... let us all be united to stop corruption. If we truly want change for the betterment of our country, let the change begin within ourselves 
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01-07-2005, 02:10 AM
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Politics isnt dirty, only politicians
Politics is not dirty in its true essence. It has the best ideals and principles that could govern people who are entering into this kind of arena. Politics is pro-people, pro-god, pro-environment and pro-nation. In fact, it is the ultimate solution to the problem in the country. But people who get into politics tainted the true essence of it. they have changed the good image and the well-defined contents of politics. In other words, they lambastedly insulted the term itself. Why i say so? Because i have observed that people get into politics not to practice what true and genuine politics should be, instead, they engage into this arena to gain fame, power, glory and of course, money. Most of them get involved in politics because the want to retain the glory that their family has been enjoying while some make politics a kind of business, a very,very profitable one with only limited expenses yet the return is surmountable. It makes them millionaires. Then, i can say that these people should be taken out of the political arena. By whom and How? let's go back to the bottom line of these atrocities of some politiicians and ask the question- who put them there by the way...now if you and i know the answer then we blame no one but us...but in the very first place we are the one who put them in their current positions and so, we have also the power and right to get rid of them from their current positions thru....wise selecting of officals in this coming election...vote no one but a politian who could DO THE LEAST HARM TO US...let us not look for the most intelligent or most experienced but rather the politician who have simple visions for our country of which such could be reached.......
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01-10-2005, 02:23 AM
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Abolish Congress
I agree with you luckycreed_08 'Politics is the solution of the problem'. But I think you need to be more open to the reality of 'Politics in the Philippines'. History tells it all. Most of our leaders are those who own vast of lands. Which is why the Agrarian Reform never succeed. Take for example 'Hacienda Luisita'. Politicians are simply selfish. They ran for their own interest. Who would want to risk to serve the country for as little 15K pesos a month? Kaya hindi makausad ang Pilipinas dahil maraming sariling interest ang ating mga mambabatas.
Bakit di natin bawasan ang mga politico.
Let's Abolish Congress para mabawasan ang mga mambabastos este mambabatas.
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